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Re: Not going anywhere

Post by GMSI7D » February 26th, 2019, 9:36 am

lonewolf wrote:
February 26th, 2019, 2:16 am
Hartmund wrote:
February 25th, 2019, 10:42 am
You need to seriously relax bro, I don't like you spreading this kind of stuff here with that much reinforcement. If you are "among the very very few who really get the situation", you know it's time to get off the pride trip and your sense of elitism. Ground yourself in your body and relax in the knowledge that you are physically safe right now, this will release tension and reduce those horror stories in your mind.

Think about that how you will, but I don't appreciate these posts in this forums and won't tolerate more of that.

Have a great day,
Hartmund
Finally! Thank you Hartmund for this.

facts don't need approval. i promise you the near future will be " horror "" as you call my posts

so ban me , i don't care and you deserve what you will get .

this is just justice for intelligence

when the disasters come, i hope you guys will be " smart" enough to see who was right.


have a nice day .


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Re: Not going anywhere

Post by VirtualAc3 » February 28th, 2019, 4:49 pm

lonewolf wrote:
February 26th, 2019, 2:27 am
VirtualAc3 wrote:
February 20th, 2019, 6:36 pm
The thing I did to get out of a similar situation was to actually go do something, anything that piqued my interest. I realized you can't stay in the Ni dreamland forever, a healthy development of Te is needed. So I started reading and executing strategies and that helped me a lot. I would suggest you start there. Good luck.
I agree with you, but my main problem right now is exactly to find that thing to do.

I understand your predicament. This problem according to my understanding arises from the following cases -

1) You are just plain lazy and trying to avoid responsibility. (I was in this state for quite some time)
Solution - Grow up.

2) You are stuck in an analysis loop. (Possible over-indulgence in your Ni)
2.1) You have no ideas on what to do at all
Solution - Read Books. Gather information. You don't know enough of anything to decide.

2.2) You have a few ideas.
Solution - Assign a number to each of those tasks and randomly chose one. (You can write a small python script for this if you are into programming) and try to make a strategy for reaching that goal

2.3) You have so many ideas that you don't know where to start
Solution - This is a though one, but the solution for 2.2 works here. You can eliminate some options by thinking about the pros/cons and its impact on your immediate future. Example - Gym > Golfing (I don't know what kind of goals you have)

And you might fail on some task or realize that it's not for you. But that's one thing you will never have to think about again.

3) You don't see the point in doing anything. You are often bothered by the question - "What's the meaning of doing this? "
Solution - This is such a huge problem that I don't even know where to begin. Entire religions were created to help alleviate the agony caused by this. This problem needs an entire thread of its own.
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Re: Not going anywhere

Post by lonewolf » March 4th, 2019, 1:33 am

VirtualAc3 wrote:
February 28th, 2019, 4:49 pm
lonewolf wrote:
February 26th, 2019, 2:27 am
VirtualAc3 wrote:
February 20th, 2019, 6:36 pm
The thing I did to get out of a similar situation was to actually go do something, anything that piqued my interest. I realized you can't stay in the Ni dreamland forever, a healthy development of Te is needed. So I started reading and executing strategies and that helped me a lot. I would suggest you start there. Good luck.
I agree with you, but my main problem right now is exactly to find that thing to do.

I understand your predicament. This problem according to my understanding arises from the following cases -

1) You are just plain lazy and trying to avoid responsibility. (I was in this state for quite some time)
Solution - Grow up.

2) You are stuck in an analysis loop. (Possible over-indulgence in your Ni)
2.1) You have no ideas on what to do at all
Solution - Read Books. Gather information. You don't know enough of anything to decide.

2.2) You have a few ideas.
Solution - Assign a number to each of those tasks and randomly chose one. (You can write a small python script for this if you are into programming) and try to make a strategy for reaching that goal

2.3) You have so many ideas that you don't know where to start
Solution - This is a though one, but the solution for 2.2 works here. You can eliminate some options by thinking about the pros/cons and its impact on your immediate future. Example - Gym > Golfing (I don't know what kind of goals you have)

And you might fail on some task or realize that it's not for you. But that's one thing you will never have to think about again.

3) You don't see the point in doing anything. You are often bothered by the question - "What's the meaning of doing this? "
Solution - This is such a huge problem that I don't even know where to begin. Entire religions were created to help alleviate the agony caused by this. This problem needs an entire thread of its own.
My situation is mainly 2.1 (no ideas at all) and 3 (nothing seems valuable at all). I've been reading for years, trying to find something, but nothing came yet. Any suggestions on how to deal with that would be welcome.
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Re: Not going anywhere

Post by VirtualAc3 » March 5th, 2019, 5:52 pm

lonewolf wrote:
March 4th, 2019, 1:33 am

My situation is mainly 2.1 (no ideas at all) and 3 (nothing seems valuable at all). I've been reading for years, trying to find something, but nothing came yet. Any suggestions on how to deal with that would be welcome.
That's a good thing. The solution for 2.1 is pretty straight forward. You just need to read books, articles, blogs, listen to podcasts i.e. absorb everything. Once you start doing this, you might notice that you tend to gravitate towards a specific thing. Follow that.

No. 3 plagues a lot of people not just INTJs. It a human need to find meaning in things. As I mentioned in an earlier, discussing this here is not appropriate and it might need a separate thread of its own (A huge part of the community might be interested in this). I would suggest you read about stoicism, particularly "Meditations" by Marcus Aurelius. That book changed my mindset completely.

Rather than thinking that the universe has no meaning, think of it as a canvas where you can paint or as a stage where you can act and share it with other people. It might be an incredibly narcissistic way of looking at things but it helps easing the agony and hopelessness brought upon by the realization of the insignificance of human existence.
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Re: Not going anywhere

Post by lonewolf » March 6th, 2019, 2:24 am

VirtualAc3 wrote:
March 5th, 2019, 5:52 pm
lonewolf wrote:
March 4th, 2019, 1:33 am

My situation is mainly 2.1 (no ideas at all) and 3 (nothing seems valuable at all). I've been reading for years, trying to find something, but nothing came yet. Any suggestions on how to deal with that would be welcome.
That's a good thing. The solution for 2.1 is pretty straight forward. You just need to read books, articles, blogs, listen to podcasts i.e. absorb everything. Once you start doing this, you might notice that you tend to gravitate towards a specific thing. Follow that.

No. 3 plagues a lot of people not just INTJs. It a human need to find meaning in things. As I mentioned in an earlier, discussing this here is not appropriate and it might need a separate thread of its own (A huge part of the community might be interested in this). I would suggest you read about stoicism, particularly "Meditations" by Marcus Aurelius. That book changed my mindset completely.

Rather than thinking that the universe has no meaning, think of it as a canvas where you can paint or as a stage where you can act and share it with other people. It might be an incredibly narcissistic way of looking at things but it helps easing the agony and hopelessness brought upon by the realization of the insignificance of human existence.
My life has been very frustrating to be honest. I've been gravitating towards nothing, it looks like I'm just wasting my time with things that have nothing to do with me just because of the lack of options.

I can see the universe as a canvas but I feel like I'm not capable of painting anything, because I see myself as an empty person, with nothing to offer or nothing that I want to express at all.
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